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Jul 11 08 6:01 AM
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And He that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And He said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Revelation 21:5
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Jul 11 08 6:08 AM
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We are committed Christians, but we feel very much part of New Age hopes and aspirations: we acknowledge the primacy of spirit over matter; we are concerned for our environment; we respect what is valuable in all truly spiritual traditions; we accept all human beings as our brothers and sisters; we support the efforts to make ours a better world; we believe that salvation affects the whole person in body and soul.
Familiar Spirits: NAM Spiritual Guidance Excerpt from chapter three in: A Catholic Response to the New Age Phenomenon by the Irish Theological Commission in 1994. To see the contents of the whole chapter, click here. "New Age Movement" is abbreviated as NAM. Trance channelling is not the only spirit activity popular in the NAM. There are various methods of acquiring familiar spirits, disguised as 'counsellors', or friends to advise people in their decision-making. They can be acquired through mind control techniques that use counsellors in the so-called 'laboratory' of the heart in a step-by-step relaxation of mind and body technique that is offered by some groups, such as the Silva Mind Control, as a non-religious way of making oneself more productive in learning, mental work, or more successful in business. This practice is used in self-help groups for healing, relaxation, and creativity enhancement. These counsellors can be anybody, including the dead or demonic spirits. From the time these spirits are engaged, one is told to pray to them and ask their advice on everything. This opens the soul to demonic influence as we have no control over the forces involved, because the person has been put into a relaxed state in which they are ready to receive any influence without using the filter of intelligence or rational thinking. The process also makes the faculty of the will supple and compliant, and ready to receive any stimulus. This is a basic NAM technique for developing higher states of consciousness. 'This practice of engaging familiar spirits is one of the most diverse, pervasive, and influential NAM methods in use today'. 53 Texe Marrs claims that the Silva Mind Control practice is based on occult philosophy, simply repackaged in de-religionised form for the materialistic west. 54 Silva Mind Control teaches that the subconscious mind can be programmed to achieve any desired goal. 55 David Spangler claims that there is a higher form of communication with these spirits than channelling. In his book Revelation: Te Birth of a New Age he says that meditation opens a person up to a new level of consciousness. If this individual joins a group at this level he or she can learn to let go of individual consciousness and develop group consciousness. The individual with aptitude can then learn either separately or in the group to allow 'another consciousness' from 'another level' to 'manifest' through them by 'fusing' with this being. 56 Thus an entity calling itself 'John' manifests through Spangler. Spangler claims that this 'fusing': 'I am you and you are I', 57 is superior to channelling, because he and 'John' are ONE, so that John speaks through Spangler. 58 Thus, Spangler claims to be a mystic.The Findhorn community manifested other entities through the group, 59 because they developed this group consciousness (or entered into group initiation). Thus the entity calling itself 'Limitless love and truth' manifested itself by giving 'revelation' through the most sensitive one, namely Spangler. The transmissions of this entity form the major part of Revelation: The Birth/, of a New Age, from chapter 4 onwards. Sometimes this spirit speaks as if it were 'god', sometimes it admits that it is separate from God. 60 Yet it claims to be the source of a 'new heaven and a new earth' (ibid.). After they were asked to 'live the life of this presence', 61 the group saw itself as 'a centre for materialisation' of this entity. 62 The entity needed the group in order to manifest. 63 It identifies itself as: 'I am the Light' (ibid.). The transmissions of this entity form part of the 'new scriptures' of the NAM, hence the title of the book. All other serious leaders claim to have 'messages' from spirit entities, for example Creme gets his from Lord Maitreya. 64
Excerpt from chapter three in: A Catholic Response to the New Age Phenomenon by the Irish Theological Commission in 1994. To see the contents of the whole chapter, click here. "New Age Movement" is abbreviated as NAM.
Excerpt from chapter three in: A Catholic Response to the New Age Phenomenon by the Irish Theological Commission in 1994. To see the contents of the whole chapter, click here.
"New Age Movement" is abbreviated as NAM.
Trance channelling is not the only spirit activity popular in the NAM. There are various methods of acquiring familiar spirits, disguised as 'counsellors', or friends to advise people in their decision-making. They can be acquired through mind control techniques that use counsellors in the so-called 'laboratory' of the heart in a step-by-step relaxation of mind and body technique that is offered by some groups, such as the Silva Mind Control, as a non-religious way of making oneself more productive in learning, mental work, or more successful in business. This practice is used in self-help groups for healing, relaxation, and creativity enhancement.
These counsellors can be anybody, including the dead or demonic spirits. From the time these spirits are engaged, one is told to pray to them and ask their advice on everything. This opens the soul to demonic influence as we have no control over the forces involved, because the person has been put into a relaxed state in which they are ready to receive any influence without using the filter of intelligence or rational thinking. The process also makes the faculty of the will supple and compliant, and ready to receive any stimulus. This is a basic NAM technique for developing higher states of consciousness. 'This practice of engaging familiar spirits is one of the most diverse, pervasive, and influential NAM methods in use today'. 53 Texe Marrs claims that the Silva Mind Control practice is based on occult philosophy, simply repackaged in de-religionised form for the materialistic west. 54 Silva Mind Control teaches that the subconscious mind can be programmed to achieve any desired goal. 55
David Spangler claims that there is a higher form of communication with these spirits than channelling. In his book Revelation: Te Birth of a New Age he says that meditation opens a person up to a new level of consciousness. If this individual joins a group at this level he or she can learn to let go of individual consciousness and develop group consciousness. The individual with aptitude can then learn either separately or in the group to allow 'another consciousness' from 'another level' to 'manifest' through them by 'fusing' with this being. 56 Thus an entity calling itself 'John' manifests through Spangler. Spangler claims that this 'fusing': 'I am you and you are I', 57 is superior to channelling, because he and 'John' are ONE, so that John speaks through Spangler. 58 Thus, Spangler claims to be a mystic.
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What is Tarot? Tarot is a set of seventy-eight cards, each featuring different symbolic pictures. A standard Tarot deck is made up of 22 cards called the major arcana or trumps, and four suits of 14 cards - similar to playing cards - called the minor arcana or pip cards.
Where did Tarot originate? There are many theories on the origins of Tarot in existence - Ancient Egyptians, gypsies, Atlantis - but historical evidence points to a beginning in the courts of Northern Italy, in the mid fifteenth century.
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SUITS The Minors are separated into four suits. These suits represent certain things: Wands FIRE (though some decks have it as Air). If FIRE then: Represents passion. As such, in a reading it usually stands for a Querent's ambition, career, creative endeavors, religion and/or philosophy. Anything a person might put their energy and soul into, such as teaching and leadership. This is something you have to do, whether you are recompensed for it or not. It is something that burns inside of you and you need to act on it. Cups WATER Represents the emotions. Best known for representing the Querent's love life, but it also stands for emotional extremes, such as elation, depression or bliss, and the negatives that come with such emotions, like over-indulgence in food, drink, drugs. Likewise the positives like poetry or music. Also, psychic powers, visions, illusions. These are feelings that you surrender to, that you flow or sink into. Swords AIR. AIR though some decks have it as Fire. If AIR then: Represents pure mind, thinking, speaking. Best known for representing problems and troubles especially those relating to communications or bad press, but really about anything to do with either words and/or thoughts. Brilliant thoughts as well as nightmares; sharp ideas or a sharp tongue. This is the card of scientists and analysts, of thinking things through or thinking/saying too much. Ideas breeze into your mind, words are given breath, written letters and messages fly on the wind. Pentacles EARTH Represents the body and the physical. Best known for representing health and money, but is also anything to do with work, a job, a task, a craft. Also luck. That which is solid, real. source
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Jul 11 08 10:03 AM
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SPIRITUAL WHOLENESS: A CATHOLIC NEW AGE SITE.
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I owned three decks, of course I know they're different from playing cards but what you pasted sounds like normal playing cards... though they didn't specify the total number of cards and people have used playing cards for divination too.
I have a friend still a self proclaimed Wiccan and she used to give me readings all the time with Tarot and I gave her readings with my familiar spirits. We were quite a team... not there anymore. I can't see anything Biblical in the death card, or the fool... Towers.. etc. She does artwork for some NAM site and a lot is so demonic looking with witches, scorpians, just stuff that drips darkness. I keep her in prayer too, her husband is a Protestant Christian & he knows I returned to Catholicism too... we both pray for his wife. I hope & pray she leaves that junk.
I think I found that after you all had to deal with me at P&F and I was like, 'what the #$#$%#$???!'. So you see why I keep wanting to but not sure I am the one to do it... but have a board for Catholics getting out of the NAM? That's when I wasn't wanting to rip everything apart Catholic anymore. There are ex new ager sites but no Catholic ones... I can't be the only one as well as my grandfather, I mean are we the ONLY ones??? No, did meet one other online but it was a Protestant board and she was staying Catholic but had bought into the junk about 'false teachings' entering the Catholic Church and I was still in the AoG then... and I'm sorry but it's better to be honest than lie about my past.
Jul 11 08 10:30 PM
More dissidents, doing their own thing and disregarding Church teachings. New Age and Christianity are NOT compatible.
Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, My flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. Ezekiel 34:2-6
Jul 11 08 10:46 PM
Do you realize you missed the point?
You pray unto the Father in your chamber now, I hope.
Jul 11 08 10:58 PM
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Daniel 9:24 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of Him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To Him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. 2 Peter 3 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 14:62
Jul 11 08 11:17 PM
I don't have a chamber.
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Matthew 6:6 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
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Jul 12 08 5:11 AM
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If the Church did not disregard Jesus' teachings for their word of the cross,
O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fire of hell,lead all souls to heaven, especially those who are in most need of Thy mercy.~ Fatima Prayer
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