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Loose Nut

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(07/02/09 3:04 PM)

Portia

I am saying that the Lord meant literally what He said which is why some of the Jews walked away from Him. And He let them.

So Jesus meant literal, but your ukrisk is just symbiotic, if so then you are not fallowing Jesus?
Jesus did that to send those who did not have faith in him away, is that where you are?
Loose Nut

thomas1957

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Posts: 1520

(07/02/09 3:17 PM)

Saint Thomas Aquinas

Where in Scripture does it say a renewal is needed? The scriptures say once and for all!

1 Corinthians 11:26
26 For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come.

Hebrews 13:10
We have an altar, whereof they have no power to eat who serve the tabernacle.

Why does the author say we have an altar if all scarifies have ended?

Loose Nut

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Posts: 84

(07/02/09 3:42 PM)

Thomas

Why does the author say we have an altar if all scarifies have ended?

What part of finished is it that you don't understand? I guess that you must still be under the law.
Jesus said it is finished, that was his sacrifice on the cross and it was once and for all. Now how can you add something to a finished thing?
Loose Nut

Portia11

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(07/02/09 4:08 PM)

Mod Squad

So Jesus meant literal, but your ukrisk is just symbiotic, if so then you are not fallowing Jesus?

Symbiotic? What are you talking about? I don't know what a ukrisk is. Jesus meant literally and the Holy Eucharist is literally the Body and Blood of Christ.

"For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering; for my name is great among the nations, says the LORD of hosts" (Mal. 1:11).

Loose Nut

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(07/02/09 4:57 PM)

Portia

Symbiotic? What are you talking about? I don't know what a ukrisk is. Jesus meant literally and the Holy Eucharist is literally the Body and Blood of Christ.

So your priest are into miracles then, how can they call Jesus down from heaven and put him into a wafer?
That is witch craft!

Loose Nut

Weanie Piglet

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(07/02/09 5:33 PM)

I would rather spend my time with 100 cats than with 100 humans.

So you admit Transubstaniation is real?

Kiss the Kitty

camabeach

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Posts: 2427

(07/02/09 5:49 PM)

Lifes a Beach

LooseNut,
When Jesus said "it is finished" what did he mean? Do you have any Scripture to back up whatever interpretation you come up with? Or is "it is finished" another Protestant tradition?

"Not all who wander are lost.

JRR Tolkien

Loose Nut

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(07/02/09 6:07 PM)

cama

When Jesus said "it is finished" what did he mean?

What is your point?
He finished what GOD sent him to do, and the final thing was to offer up and be a sacrifice for all who believe on him! He came to pay a debt he did not owe, so those who did owe could be redeemed. He paid our sin debt for us.
Is that too difficult for you?
Loose Nut

camabeach

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Posts: 2428

(07/02/09 6:11 PM)

Lifes a Beach

Catholics agree that Jesus finished what God sent him to do, and the final thing was to offer up and be a sacrifice for all who believe on him. Catholics agree that he came to pay a debt he did not owe, so those who did owe could be redeemed. He paid our sin debt for us.

But more than that, he gave us the right to become the adopted sons and daughters of God.

So what's your problem?

LooseNut, you are creating strawmen and fighting things that exist only in your own mind and in the mind of anti-Catholics. You're boxing at shadows. You're creating your own reality.

"Not all who wander are lost.

JRR Tolkien

Katydid89

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Posts: 2120

(07/02/09 8:42 PM)

Catholic sprout

Loose Nut wrote:
Then WHY does the Roman Catholic church keep him on a cross?

We do not keep Jesus on a cross! Where on earth did you get a silly idea like that?!

we never come to the kingdom of Heaven but by troubles
-Katherine of Aragon to her daughter, Mary

Last Edited By: Katydid89 07/02/09 9:08 PM. Edited 1 times.

Weanie Piglet

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Posts: 1317

(07/03/09 2:55 AM)

I would rather spend my time with 100 cats than with 100 humans.

So you admit Transubstaniation is real?

If not, then why worry about it.

If Yes, then you must admit the Catholic Church has POWER and AUTHORITY.

CASE CLOSED.

Kiss the Kitty

Susansve

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Posts: 32338

(07/03/09 7:37 AM)

Mental Arsonist

I have a question about all this. In the Old Testament it is clearly spelled out that atonement for sin must be made by sacrificing an unblemished lamb. It was the shedding of blood that produced forgiveness of all transgressions.

Was this sacrifice literal or symbolic?

An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason.
--CS Lewis

Loose Nut

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Posts: 92

(07/03/09 7:41 AM)

WP

So you admit Transubstaniation is real?

It iis a real big lie!

Loose Nut

GHSTHA

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Posts: 391

(07/03/09 9:40 AM)

Sapling

Loose Nut wrote:
Thomas

I agree, He was the Paschal Lamb who had been sacrificed.

Then WHY does the Roman Catholic church keep him on a cross and eat him at mass? Why do they keep offering sacrifices, when he has mad the only one that can save people? They call the mass a sacrifice of the mass.
Loose Nut

Then how do you explain this prophecy from the O.T.?

Malachi 1:10-12 10: Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11: For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
12: But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.

Loose Nut

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(07/03/09 12:27 PM)

Ghstha

Then how do you explain this prophecy from the O.T.?

That was the law, so if you still use it you are under the law, not grace! Christ came to set us free from the old law!

Matt 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(KJV)

Loose Nut

Portia11

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Posts: 1868

(07/03/09 3:09 PM)

Mod Squad

Loose Nut,

That was the law, so if you still use it you are under the law, not grace!

That's a prophecy!

Malachi 11: For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

But concerning the prohibition in Leviticus against drinking blood, that was a law. So why did you bring that up as if it was binding?

GHSTHA

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Posts: 396

(07/04/09 4:35 PM)

Sapling

And that is a prophesy that Loose Nut and his ilk do not want to deal with.

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