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Nov 21 09 5:10 AM
Garee, are you saying that it is a LIE to believe that God speaks to whomseover He chooses to today?
It's one thing to say that God has never spoken to you, but it's quite another to say that He has never spoken to anyone in these end days.
It's utter folly to believe that!
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Nov 21 09 7:47 AM
Thistle-down
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Nov 21 09 8:16 AM
Mother Superior
Nov 21 09 4:00 PM
Garee, give me your source of St. Faustina saying, "Lo, here is Christ." .....as if she was able to show anybody what was supernaturally shown to her.
Not only has Ms. Faustina only shown from her new revelation a detailed vision, she records the exact words of this law concerning some mysterious grace coming from this dead object(oil and canvas), made with the hands of men.
All visions or revelations that come from a supernatural nature in any manner constitute "Lo, is Christ" thus sayeth the Lord.
Again the last supernatural revelation given to any man occurred over two thousand years ago and at that time period when prophecy was closed up until the end, idol worship was still on the forbidden book of the laws of God , according the second commandment.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Mat 24:3
For many shall come in my name(authority), saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Mat 24:5
Nov 21 09 5:31 PM
Nov 21 09 8:49 PM
Wow, it must be the devil that draws Jesus to the forefront of our minds when looking at the Divine Mercy Image and saying, "Jesus, I TRUST in YOU!"
Yes he alone is the author of every private revelation, in which God sends a strong delusion to those who go beyond the same spirit of faith, as it is written and through the media of necromancy that come along side it, giving it a platform to break the silence of the word of God, which is sealed up to the end.
They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:
They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.
They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psa 115:5
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Nov 21 09 9:59 PM
Ishtar Buster
Nov 22 09 4:59 AM
Yes he alone is the author of every private revelation
Nov 22 09 6:12 AM
Which you accuse Christ Himself of .. you're truly an idiot
Job 15:15 Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
Nov 22 09 7:00 AM
Hi Jasvon,
Was the devil the author of the private revelation Saul received on the Road to Damascus? ....and the private revelation St. John received on the Island of Patmos?
Private???, if it was a private interpretation, loosed or inspired from earth it would not be in the book of the law, the Bible, it would still be some theory like the idea of a private revelation, having the same authority as coming from a tradition of men, as if it came from the mouth of God to begin with.
Us Catholics have been blessed throughout Christianity with Saints in the Church who have given witness to both those things that they saw and that they heard....no differently than Saul/Paul and John.
If coming from the mind of God as that which can create substance through a work of His faith ,from nothing is not different then coming from the fleshly mind of men who will certainly do whatsoever comes whatever comes out of their own mouth is the same spirit of faith, as it is written, you might have a point but what would salt water which speaks of another gospel that brings judgment have to do the pure water of the the Word of God which bring eternal life?
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. Col 2:18
I don't consider myself a Saint (one in the making), but I've also given witness to the fact that the PERSON of Jesus Christ is with us alway exactly as He said He would be, but in a realm not of this earth!
"What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where He was before?" ~ John 6:2
Would you think it was the devil deceiving your eyes? ....or simply accept that the Lord personally revealed His Truth to you??? Not a NEW public revelation, but a NEW revelation to YOU nonetheless!!
I beleive there is no such thing as an authority coming from a private revelation, no prophecy of God is of a private interpretation(loosening). If my mind imagined that, Lo is Christ, thus sayeth the Lord knowing He is no longer brining new revelations, I personally would cry out for mercy and the devil would flee I hope. But to believe the lie, would mean God has sent a strong delusion, that new revelation would be very scary to say the least.
Nov 22 09 10:58 AM
Nov 22 09 11:05 AM
I will know it is the last great day when every eye will see Him
Nov 24 09 3:37 AM
Nov 24 09 8:40 AM
Garee, the Scriptures I last posted above should blow your beliefs to kingdom come, but will you let them?
For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.Rom 3:3
Nov 24 09 10:17 AM
Thus were the miserable people persuaded by these deceivers, and such as belied God himself; while they did not attend nor give credit to the signs that were so evident, and did so plainly foretell their future desolation, but, like men infatuated, without either eyes to see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made to them. Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commissions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus, [Nisan,] and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes, as to portend those events that followed immediately upon it. At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple. Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner [court of the] temple, which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now those that kept watch in the temple came hereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again. This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared that the signal foreshadowed the desolation that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, "Let us remove hence." But, what is still more terrible, there was one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a plebeian and a husbandman, who, four years before the war began, and at a time when the city was in very great peace and prosperity, came to that feast whereon it is our custom for every one to make tabernacles to God in the temple, began on a sudden to cry aloud, "A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against this whole people!" This was his cry, as he went about by day and by night, in all the lanes of the city. However, certain of the most eminent among the populace had great indignation at this dire cry of his, and took up the man, and gave him a great number of severe stripes; yet did not he either say any thing for himself, or any thing peculiar to those that chastised him, but still went on with the same words which he cried before. Hereupon our rulers, supposing, as the case proved to be, that this was a sort of divine fury in the man, brought him to the Roman procurator, where he was whipped till his bones were laid bare; yet he did not make any supplication for himself, nor shed any tears, but turning his voice to the most lamentable tone possible, at every stroke of the whip his answer was, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" And when Albinus (for he was then our procurator) asked him, Who he was? and whence he came? and why he uttered such words? he made no manner of reply to what he said, but still did not leave off his melancholy ditty, till Albinus took him to be a madman, and dismissed him. Now, during all the time that passed before the war began, this man did not go near any of the citizens, nor was seen by them while he said so; but he every day uttered these lamentable words, as if it were his premeditated vow, "Woe, woe to Jerusalem!" Nor did he give ill words to any of those that beat him every day, nor good words to those that gave him food; but this was his reply to all men, and indeed no other than a melancholy presage of what was to come. This cry of his was the loudest at the festivals; and he continued this ditty for seven years and five months, without growing hoarse, or being tired therewith, until the very time that he saw his presage in earnest fulfilled in our siege, when it ceased; for as he was going round upon the wall, he cried out with his utmost force, "Woe, woe to the city again, and to the people, and to the holy house!" And just as he added at the last, "Woe, woe to myself also!" there came a stone out of one of the engines, and smote him, and killed him immediately; and as he was uttering the very same presages he gave up the ghost.
Nov 25 09 7:39 AM
Garee, you need to read history, too, with the Bible. How do you know what happened in 70AD when Jerusalem was destroyed? Do you throw away the writings of Josephus because his words are not Scripture?
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.For this cause ought the woman to have power(authority) on her head because of the angels. 1Co 11:9
Not authority over the angels, but because of the angels.
But like you said his words are not revealtions from God, his opinion/heresy is no higher than the opinion of our brother in the Lord Peter, or our sister Mary. In the end of the matter when all is said and done ,the faith to believe God, comes from God, and as "it" (faith of Christ) as His personnel labor of Love teaches us, we abide in Him, as the sole author and finisher of that reward of His grace, which alone teaches us to say no to ungodliness. And not coming from men who insist we must have a daysman between us and Christ..
Nov 25 09 7:59 AM
Nov 25 09 8:12 AM
The woman you insult non-stop here is none other than the woman prophecied from the very beginning in Gen 3:15.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Nov 25 09 10:44 AM
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Nov 25 09 11:57 AM
moron!!
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