Tony wrote...1. There is no where that states that the Scriptures are "self-teaching."

2. Please show us where it states that the Scriptures are "self-teaching."

Its there, as the golden thread that is found woven throughout the word of God. You just as a Catholic are not allowed to get under its authority seeing you follow another authority( ECF's), which you believe widens the authority of the word of God. Thats common knowledge that Catholics have chosen sola ecclesia as the authority that shapes the clay it is forming, turning things upside again and again as if God had no understanding of His own. 

Again self teaching with the real presence of Christ as our teacher, is exactly the way our Faithful Creator, Christ, the one and only author and effector of absolute truth created the book of the law, the Bible. Because it is alive, as it teaches us we understand it has the authority as a discern-er of the thoughts and intents of our hearts, as it does it work of faith in us, we in effect can believe God as the result of His work in us.

The "law of faith" found within the Bible alone declares the living thoughts of God as a perfect, complete law which lacks nothing.  And even as "it" (scripture  our gospel)  hath taught us , we shall abide in Him "the teacher" and not some familar spirit entity as some sort of "sub contractor" or "substitude teacher" to help out this needy god who you assume is worshipped by human hands as if he needed something .

The law of faith, is faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word of God. It does not get any clearer than that.
Infallibility is a immutable attribute of God alone, we are to have no Pope as a god before Him and violate the first commandment in doing so. Scripture warms of of that manner of spirit that would seduce into believing we do need a man(any man) to teach us infallibly.

These things have I written unto you concerning them (from the "sola ecclesia" Cathoilic camp/sect) that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1Jo 2:26 


do believe that Christ is the ultimate Teacher. There is no doubt in any Catholics mind about that. The Lord did establish a teaching Church.
Matthew 28:18-20 - Go Baptize and teach all nations ...(the Church's mission)

What they were to teach to all nations was to obey the word of God as the highest authority given unto men, by studying it and therefore seeking the approval of God, as the things of God, who teach other men where to find such commandments that point to God who teaches us through His word. And not to seek the approval of men as if they were the final authority.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2Ti 2:15 

A true teaching church is one that  teaches men the commandment of God such as the commandment in 2 Timothy 2:15,We seek His approval according to his commandments by rightly dividing His spiritual words of truth and even as it(that which we do rightly fully divide as it has taught us , we shall abide in him as the real presence of Christ who dwells in us does the teaching. Again to be taught of God is to be taught of God to be taught of men about God as the things of God is to be taught of men about God.as the things of men, Failure to distinguish the difference is a work of the antichrist who would have men believe there is no difference between the things of God and the things of men.

If we are to believe what you say then we have to admit that the Lord was incorrect in giving the commission for the Church to go a teach.

The commandment to teach the nations was in regard to following the commandments of God, within the book of the law; it was not in regard to trusting men as if they were God themselves. Christians are made aware of that wile of the devil. Clearly scripture, as a law that does judge the intents of our hearts, reveals another law that we are to call no man on earth teacher(master) in respect to them as having the immutable attribute of infallibility, for one is our teacher and guide, seeing it is impossible to serve two Masters, two Holy Fathers, two central authority of one church.

Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

It does not go against the First Commandment because we do not claim that the Pope or any of the ECFs are god.

Well if they possess this immutable attribute of God which you say they do, you have in effect already decided to have the faith of Christ in respect to them and not Christ alone.  Scripture declares that manner of faith is blasphemy, so yes you do claim they are gods we must have before our living God Christ, Jesus.

But you have never heard a any Catholic being accused of interpreting the Bible for themselves

We are made aware of that wile of the devil, who insists a man must teach you because the promises of Christ in regard to Him teaching us as our guide and comforter somehow or other, went astray and we another mediator to do that work.

So , as a Catholic you must have other gods; before our living God, Christ Jesus.

I believe, the number of “workers with familiar spirits” or what Catholics call “patron spirit guides” today is in  the thousands, as if one true God working through one Spirit, by one faith was not enough and the thousands could never be enough seeing the number of familiar spirits as a false cloud of witness to those who do violate the first commandment, is added almost daily in these end times.

Evangelicals/Fundamentalists always tell Catholics that they should interpret the Bible for themselves.

Yes, Amen, in accordance to the commandment/law as it teaches us we abide in Him. The living, abiding, word of God as our teacher guide, and comforter, commands that each man study to seek His approval, rightly dividing the word of God. Evangelicals/Fundamentalists that always tell Catholics they should follow the commandments of God also are teaching what they were to teach according to the great commission.

In saying this, Evangelicals/Fundamentalists make themselves the authority unto themselves. This is no where in the Scriptures.

Not really,they understand they do not have that authority of themselves, in saying study to show your approval unto God, they have in effect followed the commandment that  teaches us to teach all nations on how any man can hear God through the hearing of His faith, as He teaches them all things.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.


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