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Nov 2 12 1:03 AM
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So, Paul, do you now understand what Jesus did for YOU on that Cross?
Do you now see the LOVE of Christ on that Cross?
Do you now understand that you did not reconcile yourself to God?
Do you now see that it was the chastisement that was laid upon the Lord that made us whole and reconciled us to God?
See the LOVE, Paul:
You have denied that Christ has ransomed us with His very Life,
but think about what He left behind to come to earth and the price He paid with His very Life to reconcile us back to God!
He took the iniquity of us all onto Himself to save us from going to HELL!
How dare you act so arrogant and pompous and think you reconciled yourself back to God.
The Law is the schoolmaster to make us aware of just how sinful we are.....and our need of a Savior!
The Law did its job in my life and brought me to my knees in repentance and in search for God Himself!
I now KNOW Jesus IS my Lord and my Savior!!
Midgie do you think comingfrom knows what the word "repentance" means?
I believe both Paul and yourself are following a gospel of works, of self righteousness that is not entirely dependant after the words of Christ and therefore not the true gospel, and both would come under the teaching in Mathew 7 where Christ says depart form me, I never knew you, as if we could add something we could do to His finished work which of itself provided all the fullness of His grace necessary for us to enter heaven as white as snow without spot or blemish .
The power of the cross is made to no effect through the many Catholic additions coming from the oral traditions of their Bishops.
Rather than His work actually effectually paying for the full wages of sin (every one) which is eternal in nature, coming from the fullness of His grace (100%) Catholic teach is was only a down payment that must be accompanied by their good works.Instead of His work of faith coming as a labor of His love providing 100% of the grace needed to pay the eternal wage of sin, the work that Christ provided becomes an unknown amount perhaps 17% for one person as a down payment, while His grace provided 100 % for our dear sister in the Lord, Mary, as if God was a respecter of person..So the power of the cross becomes to them a unknown portion of what is needed to enter heaven and must be made up as the final payment in a place called purgatory which is another unknown factor as to length of time or severity of the suffering that one must do to make themselves clean enough to enter.. and therefore preach another gospel, other than the gospel Christ preaches.
Rather than His work actually effectually paying for the full wages of sin (every one) which is eternal in nature, coming from the fullness of His grace (100%) Catholic teach is was only a down payment that must be accompanied by their good works.
Instead of His work of faith coming as a labor of His love providing 100% of the grace needed to pay the eternal wage of sin, the work that Christ provided becomes an unknown amount perhaps 17% for one person as a down payment, while His grace provided 100 % for our dear sister in the Lord, Mary, as if God was a respecter of person..
So the power of the cross becomes to them a unknown portion of what is needed to enter heaven and must be made up as the final payment in a place called purgatory which is another unknown factor as to length of time or severity of the suffering that one must do to make themselves clean enough to enter.. and therefore preach another gospel, other than the gospel Christ preaches.
Paul on the other hand seems to have developed his own purgatory doctrine where the suffering comes in as he attempts to fulfill the requirement of Old testament ceremonial laws which were already (past tense) fulfilled at the cross and are identified by the law of God as weak and useless in light of Christ's fulfillment of them. But Christians are the freed men and not in bondage to ceremonial laws as if keeping them is ones own purgatory.
Galatians 4:9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
garee what you believe was never taught by Jesus or the Apostles. You make things up as you go.
Exactly what weak and beggarly elements are you referring to, Garee?
garee must be on drugs...
he wrote on the OSAS thread quote- I am not ashamed of my church then he comes here and starts blaming others for not believing what he believes.
I am still waiting for him to provide us with OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS FROM his CHURCH"S teaching on embryonic stem cell research.
I think Garee had to run and google "weak and beggarly elements" because he quotes Scripture having NO clue what it means!
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