Thank you, Garee.
Our Savoir(Jesus) who is God as the lamb of God slain "from" the foundation of this world has alawys been eternal God from eternity past.
Most Christians say He was crucified at Calvary, a mere 2000 years ago.

Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God,
ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Acts 2:23
He has no mother or father, begining of day or end of life.
Jesus mentioned His father a lot, if one can believe the gospels.

But that the world may know that I love the Father;
and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do.
Arise, let us go hence.

John 14:31

Still trying to make our blessed sister in the Lord, Mary's womb "the blessing" as a hope in her flesh as something that could profit towards actual salvation?
I doubt that they hope in her flesh, Garee.
But they would rather offer a word abut her, than teach us what the Lord commanded.

Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments,
which the LORD your God commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:

Deuteronomy 6:1

Can you define the word "rather"?
I rather keep the Lord's sayings than your sayings,
or the Catholics' sayings.

And if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing,
saying, In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel?

Joshua 22:24

Or will you re- define that word according to the law of the fathers also?
And thou shalt write upon them all the words of this law,
when thou art passed over,
that thou mayest go in unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee,
a land that floweth with milk and honey;
as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee.

Deuteronomy 27:3

And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that "hear" the word of God, and keep it.Luke11:27-28Had2 asked..Can I see the future?
They were enquiring of you, about your statements about revelation.
Aught you not be clarifying what you said, rather than do as they do to us;
telling them what they believe.

do the work of an evangelist,
make full proof of thy ministry.

2 Timothy 4:5

Yes..let me see......I see Had2  making the word of God to no effect by ignoring the definition of what a prophet is and what it means for them to prophecy, in order that she might continue to abide in the law of the fathers.(men following other men)
Had2 has taught us,
that eating Jesus' flesh would be Sola Scriptura, unto anyone who does it,
as if the Bible is not the body of words that is given.

But if they had stood in My counsel,
and had caused My people to hear My words,
then they should have turned them from their evil way,
and from the evil of their doings.

Jeremiah 23:22

To prophecy is to declare the word of God .It's what prophets do... declare the word of God.
It isn't what Christians do.

I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran:
I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

Jeremiah 23:21

False prophets who intrude into things not seen by faith use their fleshly minds to add and subract from it(God word) through their private revelations of one of those special...sacred... I heard it through the grape vine oral tradition of the highly venerable/worship-able Bishop's of the Catholic denomination.
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream;
and he that hath My word, let him speak My word faithfully.
What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 23:28

But you knew that, its how you make the word of God to no effect so that you can keep your sacred tradition of men.(The other gospel)
I believe you make your own word to no effect,
when you harp on about what they believe, while ignoring the topic and what they asked you about.

So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me:
for I trust in Thy word.

Psalm 119:42

There is only ONE Body of Christ, Garee!

God bless

Amen 

Ephesians 4:3
Endeavouring to keep the unity of "the Spirit" in the bond of peace.
If you endeavour that,
offer up the flesh from that body, like Jesus' said to.

Those that believe in Him do this.

And He took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it,
and gave unto them, saying,
This is My body which is given for you:
this do in remembrance of Me.

Luke 22:19

And the unity of that body is the Spirit mind of God,(Holy Spirit)  not the ancient fleshly opinions of the fathers, called the law of the fathers, as if the ecf's were the Holy Spirit and not the church His bride.
Jesus saith unto them,
My meat is to do the will of Him that sent Me,
and to finish His work.

John 4:34

But that the world may know that I love the Father;
and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do.
Arise, let us go hence.

John 14:31
We know the results of that kind of ecf law that in the end of the matter makes the bride... the Potter .(upside down)
I know the result in making a covenant with the Christians.

Take heed to thyself,
lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest,
lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:

Exodus 34:12

The body of Christ is no longer received of them.
Some of them even call it weak, and ceremonial.

I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the "law of the fathers", and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and womenActs22:3-4
But we know that the law is good,
if a man use it lawfully;

1 Timothy 1:8

Keep God's testimony, and Praise the law Wub
`Paul

To the law 
and to the testimony:
if they speak not according to this word,
it is because there is no light in them.

Isaiah 8:20

Yet say ye, Why? 
doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? 
When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, 
and hath kept all My statutes, and hath done them, 
he shall surely live.
Ezekiel 18:19

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