Midgie wrote:
Lots of people are going to be truly surprised and hang their heads in utter shame when it is revealed to them how offensive they've been to the Mother of God! Nobody says you have to believe as a Catholic, but the Bible does say:

"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption..."
~ 2 Peter 2:12

You guys seriously need to heed the warning if you sincerely believe the Bible is the Word of God. Be a DOER of the Word and not a hearer only; deceiving your own self.

God bless you

Beating your head against the Word of God is not going to change it.
You are being willfully dishonest in not admitting in these conversations that you do NOT take tGod's Word alone.

FURTHER - you prove that trying to embrace both God's Word and its ANTITHETICAL catholic tradition  makes you dizzy and confused to the point where you are intellectually unable to accept the plain meaning of until... and apply scriptures in context.