Jasvon.

I do not believe, Paul, that the Lord punishes "innocent" children, but desires them to come to Him.
Neither do I.

But I suspect I do not believe as you, that all children are innocent.
The children of froward parents are strange in the LORD's eyes, aren't they?
{I showed you the verse}

"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto Me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." ~ Matt 19:14

"But when Jesus saw it, He was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."
~ Mark 10:14

"But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."
~ Luke 18:16
You quote this verse after suffering me not to go to Jesus,
and after saying heaven is not at hand.

And that because you want self justification for believing you have gone to Jesus,
and will go to heaven,
by your going to the Church of Rome.

Stop being double minded, Paul, and choose which it is:
Jesus sends to you those He wants healed,
and you will know which ones they are.
He'll tell you.

If you can't do healing, then you have not your power from Jesus,
and you are not doing all He commanded. Are you.
You call it double-minded,
but I do His commandments, and He sends me people to heal,
and to cast devils out of them.

You confessed to me you don't keep all His commandments,
but that you believe on the Church [New Covenant], and on Jesus' death,
and you don't heal the sick He has sent you.

So where is the contradiction?
I have at least three a day come to me, usually more.

Paul, that's a terrible thing to do to someone to make them feel that they are not healed because they don't have the faith to be healed.
It was terrible of me to pray Kev whole?
It was not me who lacked the faith to reject the answer to that prayer,
but it appears you blame me, merely for pointing it out.

Was Jesus terrible too, for saying to us, O ye of little faith?

St. Paul was given a thorn in the flesh to keep him humble and from thinking more highly of himself than he ought, but I doubt there's many today who have the level of faith that he possessed. People were healed simply by touching the handkerchiefs he had touched, yet he could not get healing himself. Things are not always as cut and dry as you try to make them. I hate seeing what people like Benny Hinn do to people by making them think they'll only be healed if they just have enough faith. Like I said, I don't know why some are healed and some are not, but never would I think it's because those who don't get healed is due to them not having enough faith. Sheesh, we've had Saints in the Church who suffered terrible illnesses, but they did so all to the Glory of God. They didn't have children, though, which I think makes it harder to not want to be healed to finish the job God has given us to do.

I never said things were cut and dried,
but look at all your words.

You are not rejecting me, Jasvon,
for I have no belief, but Jesus' words which I have shown you,
that is my belief.

God the Father does not make good people suffer unjustly,
as your belief appears to suppose.
God is loving, and merciful, as you said once before,
but He is also just,
and He makes His Son do His judgment according to His fair and just will.

If I suffer from anything at all,
I pray the Father show me the commandment I broke [why He brought that judgment on me],
and I offer Him a beast, a male without blemish, for a burnt offering,
for atonement before Him
`Paul

Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:
freely ye have received, freely give.
Matthew 10:8

~

For the Father judgeth no man,
but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
I can of Mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge:
and My judgment is just;
because I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent Me.
John 5:22 & 30



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