Hi GHSTHA,

No, we are residents of the U.S.A.

Not talking about natural man born of women spiritually separated from the Kingdom of God from birth, as new creatures in Christ, our citizenship is not of here, we are born from above.

You're from Jerusalem?

Yes, the city on a hill whose light of the gospel cannot be hid by the oral traditions of men,its the same city, as the mother of all sects

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

I don't see that in the verse below.

You don't see that the reward of good works is not connected or obtained as infused grace, and in the end of the matter it is imputed as a reward of Christ's work of faith, labor of His love alone, working in us to both will and do the good pleasure of God??

The verse is very clear…. I believe it becomes, can a person pour new wine (the Spirit of grace) into old wineskin (these bodies of death) which seems to be the confusion regarding this verse.

The work we do is not reckoned of grace in any way shape or form, "it", the work of believing God is the normal requirement for obeying the voice of the Spirit of Christ, as our reasonable service.

Remember to be full of Grace, is to be full of unmerritted favor, the more grace the more favor is needed to pay the wage.If a person is not full of the grace of God he will be required to pay the remaining wage which again has not been reduced to firery lake purgatory, as the final mediator that can cleanse us, as to what Christ could not perform, through His labor of love alone.

Grace comes when we fall from that position, it alone causes us to trun to His voice, that we can repent for no man can come to heaven unless the Father enable Him by His free gift of grace which He imputes to us..

Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Rom 4:4

Do you have to work for a free gift ?

You will have to clarify that further garee. You have a few things going on in that sentence.

The wages of sin according to the eternal law of God have never been changed or reduced to reflect a doctrine called infused grace, where man might make partial payment for the dept, as the wages due.

Either Christ has paid the dept in full, or the full wage is still due.


Jam 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.