Hi Jasvon,

So, Garee, where do you think the inspiration came from these past 2000+ years for all the new inventions mankind has made?

Are they not new revelations given to man by God?

Big difference between God breathed and an innovation that comes from the mind of men . God has been silent as far as new revelations which make up the whole deposit of faith, that work of Christ's faith ended with His last prophet, John on the island of Patmos..

I believe when we are referring to the word of God we are looking beyond what the eye can see and the heart of natural man can invent.

In the book of Job the Spirit of Christ reveals that He hides Himself from one and to another makes Himself know by inspiration, as a work He performs.

Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?

Jason, can you find God by searching for a signs and wonders gospel?

Innovation by which new inventions come does not constitute a direct inspiration of God; the ways of man do not necessarily constitute the ways of God.

I just don't understand why you put God in a box like you do.

Yet you do understand the wider box with no barriers that you must put Him in?

Although we can't put God in a box, even He Himself is under the authority of His law found written in His law book, which you call a box.

I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.Psa 138:2

I believe it is on less to the glory of God to conceal a matter as it is for Him to reveal a matter. What can be known about God in all its entirety, is found in His law book you can invent other ways but hey in the end of the matter have no authority as, God breathed.

Though the heavens declare His glory, they speak not a word of His love and therefore how, when and if He is working in the affairs of men, either hardening their hearts or making their hearts soft that we can seek Him, which for us without His perfect word would be beyond searching out.

Yes, the Canon of Scripture was closed with Revelation because the Church said it was closed......but that doesn't mean God has been silent these past 2000 years.

God stopped brining new revelation because He finished His book of the law. Remember our living God, the pillar and foundation of absolute truth is not served by human hands. The Church can no more close a revealtion from God than could they author it.

The idea that the Church said…. enough with those new revelations, from now on its oral tradition through private revelation is absolutely absurd.

He speaks, Garee, if you will only be silent long enough to listen!!! Your head must be like a bee's hive with all the data you have spinning around inside it.

All what data?

He speaks through His revelations found in His law book as the whole deposit of His work of faith. To have the faith of Christ in respect to a private revelation, is to give the father of lies a platform where he can bring his false prophecy…saying thus sayeth the Lord, Lo is Christ.

Scripture teaches us to "believe not" in that kind of gospel because along with those private new revelations, the Spirit of Christ sends a strong delusion that would confirm unbelief.

The elect will not be deceived in that way, they will obey the commandment because it is not grievous to believe not when commanded to and be given the faith to wait for the promise, when every eye will see Him and not just the private eye of private new revelations saying, thus sayeth the Lord, when we know the Lord is no longer bringing new revelations of any kind, save through the illuminating power of the word of God, found only in the complete perfect law book of God.

That God did not directly inspire the writers of the Bible. The texts are not inerrant, but were written by authors with a "high degree of religious insight." 3 They were inspired in the same way that great artists and musicians have been considered inspired.

That's working for you, where would you find that criterion in the word of God?

I find just the opposite; I find one inerrant author and finisher of our faith (not of ourselves) who finished all the work He was sent to do.

Although the inerrant word of God has many witnesses regarding the fact of its inerrancy, as to His word and not the word of men who follow men as a higher authority. The book of Jeremiah solidifies any possibility of the idea of men using philosophy of men who think highly of themselves as quote:…"a high degree of religious insight" as them who were inspired in the same way that great artists and musicians have been considered inspired.

I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.Jer 23

High degree of religious insight.?

How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;Jer 23

High degree of religious insight?

Which think to cause my people to forget my name (authority) by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers(EFC's) have forgotten my name (authority) for Baal.
Jer 23

High degree of religious insight?

The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.
Jer 23

"Word of God" or "High degree of religious insight"?

Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.Jer 23

High degree of religious insight?

Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.

High degree of religious insight?

Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them:
Jer 23

High degree of religious insight?

therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house.Jer 23

Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken?And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken?

But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD;Jer 23

Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers(EFC's), and cast you out of my presence:Jer 23

High degree of religious insight?

And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten. Jer 23:22

According to the High degree of religious insight, how long is everlasting?

Where does the quote:…"a high degree of religious insight " fit into the description of the God's breathed inspiration in the verses above?


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