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Apr 7 13 9:02 AM
comingfom wrote:I think I'll let Garee speak for himself, knowing how you misrepresent other peoples beliefs, when it suits you to do so.
Garee wrote:All visions or revelations that come from a supernatural nature in any manner constitute "Lo, is Christ" thus sayeth the Lord. Again the last supernatural revelation given to any man occurred over two thousand years ago and at that time period when prophecy was closed up until the end, idol worship was still on the forbidden book of the laws of God , according the second commandment. http://friendshipgarden10538.yuku.com/sreply/89003/AntiCatholic-bias-in-history
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Apr 8 13 12:58 AM
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Paul, YOU are accusing me of the very thing you are guilty of doing to me!
I gave you the very quote where Garee said anything after Rev 22 was from anti-another Christ!
I've been on this board long enough with Garee to know what he has said, so it would do you well to not stick your nose into things you have NO clue what you're talking about!
Pay attention, Paul, and stop making a fool of yourself and trying to make a liar of me!
I know what Garee has posted on these boards through the years and know that he has said many times that any private revelation from God after Rev 22 is from an anti/another Christ.
Mind your own business now unless you know what you are talking about.
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Apr 8 13 2:47 AM
Pay attention, Paul, and stop making a fool of yourself and trying to make a liar of me! I know what Garee has posted on these boards through the years and know that he has said many times that any private revelation from God after Rev 22 is from an anti/another Christ. Mind your own business now unless you know what you are talking about.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
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Apr 8 13 3:35 AM
Apr 8 13 3:53 AM
So why do you believe in the man made belief of the Rapture?
Apr 8 13 4:04 AM
comingfrom wrote:And you gripe, and complain, and misjudge them,
comingfrom wrote:Yet that does not mean that God is not revealing His word to people today.
Apr 8 13 4:07 AM
Mathew 24:35-36 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." Jesus Christ.
Apr 8 13 4:28 AM
Apr 8 13 4:32 AM
Had2 wrote: Rapture doctrine did not exist before it "popped" into John Darby's head in 1830 AD. If you believe in the Rapture, you probably wrongly assumed it was a historic Bible doctrine, when in fact it was born in the era of the cults (1830-1880 AD).Mathew 24:35-36 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." Jesus Christ.
Apr 8 13 4:36 AM
Had2 wrote: Mathew 24:35-36 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone." Jesus Christ. Rapture doctrine did not exist before it "popped" into John Darby's head in 1830 AD. If you believe in the Rapture, you probably wrongly assumed it was a historic Bible doctrine, when in fact it was born in the era of the cults (1830-1880 AD). Sorry Had2 for the umhp..teenth millionth time I am not a dispensationalist.
Apr 8 13 4:42 AM
Garee wrote:John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Apr 8 13 6:02 AM
Midgie wrote: Garee wrote: John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.You're prooftexting the Scriptures again to prove a point, Garee, and you've missed the point Jesus made to Martha!" Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" ~ John 11: 25-26Believest thou this, Garee? If you do, then why have you let Dispensationalism influence you're thinking while totally denying any possibility that the Catholic Church's teaching on the Communion of Saints is correct?God bless you
Garee wrote: John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Comparing the spiritual words of Christ to the spiritual is not proof exting. Its one of the many necessary prescribed ways God has given us to study to seek after His approval. After all we know Him after His Spirit (the real presence of God) not after the flesh of the ecf's according to the law of the fathers.That would be turning things upside down, as if our Father in heaven had no understanding to offer us, in whom He is forming, according to His likeness. And not the likeness of sinful flesh as that which scripture refers to as the law of the fathers.(man's wisdom)
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 213-14
And of course I believe that teaching(John 11: 25-26) that confirms OSAS. And who told you I was a Dispensationalist, Had2?
I lean more towards the thread called THE THOUSAND YEAR REIGN. with the exception of your comment that we are to seek after necromancy, as if the saints that are reigning with Christ are invisible spirit entities that some worship (enquiring of worker as an invisible entity is the highest form of worship) it reserved for our Father in heaven alone. It’s the saint on earth that do reign with Christ from heaven .Its why we are called ambassadors for Christ and not them that are sleeping, waiting for the last day(the rapture) when those souls that are in heaven sleeping will be awaked at the sound of Christ’s voice the last trump and those who do remain(awake) reigning with Christ on earth will be caught up(raptured) in the air and together in the twinkling of an eye both will receive their new incorruptible bodies and therefore live forever in the new
Apr 8 13 6:13 AM
Apr 8 13 6:15 AM
Garee wrote: It’s the saint on earth that do reign with Christ from heaven .
Apr 8 13 6:48 AM
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Apr 8 13 9:26 PM
Yes that is correct, but any private revelation/interpretation period.And not just after Reveltions 22. Before or after is the key that the gates of hell could never prevail against..No scripture is of any private revelation as an interpretation loosed of God from heaven .Scripture is clear, as it teaches us we are to abide in Him. The one promised teacher, comforter and guide
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.So why do you believe in the man made belief of the Rapture?
Because its not man made. John 11:24Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Paul, it is YOU who comes here to this board to gripe, complain, and misjudge Catholics!
You once again see in me the very thing you are guilty of doing yourself.
Garee does not believe God is revealing anything to anybody anymore as if God stopped speaking completely to men after the compilation of the Bible.
That's a LIE from the pit of hell, so don't encourage such nonsense!
God has made His Mystery known through supernatural revelation to multitudes throughout Christianity, which is Christ IN US, the Hope of Glory!
Garee has obviously never experienced the supernatural revelation of God, so he simply denies the Truth of it!
Rapture doctrine did not exist before it "popped" into John Darby's head in 1830 AD. If you believe in the Rapture, you probably wrongly assumed it was a historic Bible doctrine, when in fact it was born in the era of the cults (1830-1880 AD).
In Christianity in America, C. Norman Kraus writes, "Dispensationalism is a system of scriptural interpretation which was first developed in Plymouth Brethren circles in England and Ireland in the 1830s and spread to North America beginning in the 1850s. John Nelson Darby was the most seminal thinker in formulating the system. Almost all the distinctive doctrines of present-day Dispensationalism can be traced to his writings. In America the system appeared in its classic form in the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible (1909) which has had wide influence, especially among fundamentalists.
The Rapture will be on the last day according to John 11.
And the day or hour no man knows.
We just know miraculously, infallibly as God reveals it from heaven the rapture will occor on the last day, called ressurection day, or the day of the Christ, the one ressurector of spirit life.
His word is Spirit and is life.
The flesh which some call the "Real Presence" ,profits nothing, nada, zip.
John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
You're prooftexting the Scriptures again to prove a point, Garee, and you've missed the point Jesus made to Martha!
" Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" ~ John 11: 25-26
Believest thou this, Garee?
If you do, then why have you let Dispensationalism influence you're thinking while totally denying any possibility that the Catholic Church's teaching on the Communion of Saints is correct?
Comparing the spiritual words of Christ to the spiritual is not proof exting. Its one of the many necessary prescribed ways God has given us to study to seek after His approval.
After all we know Him after His Spirit (the real presence of God) not after the flesh of the ecf's according to the law of the fathers.
That would be turning things upside down, as if our Father in heaven had no understanding to offer us, in whom He is forming, according to His likeness.
And not the likeness of sinful flesh as that which scripture refers to as the law of the fathers.(man's wisdom)
And of course I believe that teaching(John 11: 25-26) that confirms OSAS.
And who told you I was a Dispensationalist, Had2?
I lean more towards the thread called THE THOUSAND YEAR REIGN.
with the exception of your comment that we are to seek after necromancy, as if the saints that are reigning with Christ are invisible spirit entities that some worship (enquiring of worker as an invisible entity is the highest form of worship) it reserved for our Father in heaven alone.
It’s the saint on earth that do reign with Christ from heaven .
Its why we are called ambassadors for Christ and not them that are sleeping, waiting for the last day(the rapture) when those souls that are in heaven sleeping will be awaked at the sound of Christ’s voice the last trump and those who do remain(awake) reigning with Christ on earth will be caught up(raptured) in the air and together in the twinkling of an eye both will receive their new incorruptible bodies and therefore live forever in the new
garee wrote-Comparing the spiritual words of Christ to the spiritual is not proof exting.The problem is garee you are not comparing you are twisiting the words of Christ to fit your own ideology.
You also wrote-Its one of the many necessary prescribed ways God has given us to study to seek after His approval.So really you are saying you believe you have already obtained God's approval.
Geesh must be nice to think God will respect your opinion since you keep on saying God is no respecter of men.
There is only ONE Body of Christ, Garee!
And who told you I was a Dispensationalist, Had2? UH Duh! You are the one who told us you still fellowship with the PB church?
Garee, I don't believe you are a Dispensationalist but I do think you've been influenced by it's teaching in the PB where you got your basic understanding of the Bible from.
The thing is how many kinds of dispensationalists are there and do they all have a different interpretation of what the word means?
For instance some Protestant/ Evangelicals interpret the Book of Revelation not as an account of past events like the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Apr 9 13 3:15 AM
Had2 wrote: So you believe Jesus Christ was God while He was inside Mary's womb. Thanks for clearing that up for us garee. Now you still didn't answer Yes or No to my questioncan you forsee the future?
And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that "hear" the word of God, and keep it.Luke11:27-28Had2 asked..Can I see the future?
Yes..let me see......I see Had2 making the word of God to no effect by ignoring the definition of what a prophet is and what it means for them to prophecy, in order that she might continue to abide in the law of the fathers.(men following other men)To prophecy is to declare the word of God .It's what prophets do... declare the word of God. False prophets who intrude into things not seen by faith use their fleshly minds to add and subract from it(God word) through their private revelations of one of those special...sacred... I heard it through the grape vine oral tradition of the highly venerable/worship-able Bishop's of the Catholic denomination. But you knew that, its how you make the word of God to no effect so that you can keep your sacred tradition of men.(The other gospel)
Apr 9 13 3:32 AM
Midgie wrote: Garee wrote: It’s the saint on earth that do reign with Christ from heaven .There is only ONE Body of Christ, Garee!God bless
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