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Apr 9 13 3:43 AM
comingfrom wrote:I offer them wafers from the Bible, for their correction. I am indeed incensed by what Catholics preach, and how they be towards the believers in the word.
~ Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19. ~ Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25. ~ Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex. 12:15,19. ~ Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15. ~ Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7. ~ Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9. ~ Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32. ~ Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18. ~ Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16. ~ Idolatry - Ex. 22:20. ~ Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33. ~ Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33. ~ Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38. ~ Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14. ~ Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2. ~ Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21. ~ Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25. ~ Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9. ~ Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14. ~ Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22. ~ Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8. ~ Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5. ~ Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27. ~ Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30. ~ Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13. ~ Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18. ~ Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22. ~ Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3. ~ Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29. ~ Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30. ~ Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16. ~ Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13. ~ Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31. ~ Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36. ~ Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20. ~ False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20. ~ Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18. ~ Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23. ~ Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23. ~ Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23. ~ Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7. ~ False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.
comingfrom wrote:That the Lord doesn't reveal anything He has not already revealed to His prophets, does not mean He isn't speaking to anyone any more.
comingfrom wrote:But you say something derogatory about anybody who doesn't just receive the word of Catholicism, and eat whatever you offer up, but dare to speak against it, and show you what God rather said, in your holy book.
comingfrom wrote:You would like people to believe you are blessed of the Lord, but unless they come in the name of Catholicism, you condemn even them who are blessed of the Lord.
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Apr 9 13 4:54 AM
Catholics are a lot more tolerant of heretics and schismatics today than the Early Church was!
Yes, in both the first century reformation and the fifthteenth century reformation the Word of God, as it is written, took away the false authority of the "law of the fathers"(ecf's) as them killing the what they thought was the competition, because they must walk by sight.
It, the law of the fathers (sola ecclesia) has been reformed by the same spirit of faith according as it is written (sola scriptura) the one exclusive reforming agent, as the sole authority of God, which is after no daysman, as an infallible interpreter (Pope). Those as clearly seen by the scriptures as those who sought after men's "sacred approval" by walking by sight… called venerating the highly venerable ones under the "law of the fathers"(efc's) tried to prove that Paul who now after his conversion from the Pharisees sect who then had become a Bishop (ring leader) of the Nazarene denomination was a heretic, because he was falsely accused of spreading damnable heresies that they thought denied true Christ. But we know the results of those who call sola scriptura, (believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:) a heresy .
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:13-14
Why could those who were following the after the “law of the fathers”(efc’s) were not in the end of the matter able to prove sola scriptura( believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets)was a heresy?
Was it because sola ecclesia (we are the visible church) was not as high as an authority as they hoped it was and therefore sola scriptura made the law of the fathers, to no effect during both of those reformations? Because some men realized they were fighting against God by refusing to heaven unto His word as the final authority?
Apr 9 13 5:28 AM
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Apr 9 13 6:06 AM
Apr 9 13 7:18 AM
Midgie wrote: Wait till you see what's going to happen when Jesus returns, Garee!!! Ignorance will be NO excuse for you.God bless you
Apr 9 13 7:23 AM
Garee wrote:Psalm 19:7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
Apr 9 13 7:36 AM
Had2 wrote:garee wrote -Yes, in both the first century reformation Where is the first century reformation found in the Bible garee?
Apr 9 13 12:24 PM
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Apr 9 13 6:07 PM
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Our Savoir(Jesus) who is God as the lamb of God slain "from" the foundation of this world has alawys been eternal God from eternity past.
He has no mother or father, begining of day or end of life.
Still trying to make our blessed sister in the Lord, Mary's womb "the blessing" as a hope in her flesh as something that could profit towards actual salvation?
Can you define the word "rather"?
Or will you re- define that word according to the law of the fathers also?
And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that "hear" the word of God, and keep it.Luke11:27-28Had2 asked..Can I see the future?
Yes..let me see......I see Had2 making the word of God to no effect by ignoring the definition of what a prophet is and what it means for them to prophecy, in order that she might continue to abide in the law of the fathers.(men following other men)
To prophecy is to declare the word of God .It's what prophets do... declare the word of God.
False prophets who intrude into things not seen by faith use their fleshly minds to add and subract from it(God word) through their private revelations of one of those special...sacred... I heard it through the grape vine oral tradition of the highly venerable/worship-able Bishop's of the Catholic denomination.
But you knew that, its how you make the word of God to no effect so that you can keep your sacred tradition of men.(The other gospel)
There is only ONE Body of Christ, Garee!God blessAmen Ephesians 4:3Endeavouring to keep the unity of "the Spirit" in the bond of peace.
There is only ONE Body of Christ, Garee!God bless
And the unity of that body is the Spirit mind of God,(Holy Spirit) not the ancient fleshly opinions of the fathers, called the law of the fathers, as if the ecf's were the Holy Spirit and not the church His bride.
We know the results of that kind of ecf law that in the end of the matter makes the bride... the Potter .(upside down)
I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the "law of the fathers", and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and womenActs22:3-4
Apr 10 13 2:41 AM
comingfrom wrote:But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 1 Timothy 1:8
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Apr 10 13 3:40 AM
Much Fondue About Nothing
Midgie wrote:Paul, you offer us YOUR understanding of the Scriptures as if we should simply accept what you say when you pick and choose what you will believe from the Bible! You obviously expect Catholics to simply kow-tow to YOUR understanding of the Scriptures????
Catholics offer us their understanding of the Scriptures as if all non-Catholics should simply accept what they say when they pick and choose what they will believe from the Bible! Catholics obviously expect non-Catholics to simply kow-tow to THEIR understanding of the Scriptures.
Apr 10 13 4:18 AM
Apr 10 13 5:04 AM
Midgie wrote:Cheezit, the difference being is that Catholics don't hunt anybody down to bash their faith as is done to Catholics. I would hope you can see the difference.
Apr 10 13 5:08 AM
Apr 10 13 5:36 AM
Apr 10 13 5:58 AM
Had2 wrote: I guess you forgot to post an answer again garee.
Apr 10 13 1:18 PM
Apr 10 13 5:31 PM
Why didn't you quote the rest of it, Paul? At least finish the sentence!"But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust." ~ 1 Timothy 1:8-11
Ask the Lord to write His Laws on your heart, Paul!"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put My law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be My people." ~Jeremiah 31:33
Ask Jesus to remove your very evil, evil heart and replace it with a heart of flesh and a new spirit.
" A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."~ Ezekiel 36:26
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."~ 2 Corinthians 5:17
Midgie wrote:Paul, you offer us YOUR understanding of the Scriptures as if we should simply accept what you say when you pick and choose what you will believe from the Bible! You obviously expect Catholics to simply kow-tow to YOUR understanding of the Scriptures???? Do you have any idea just how identical that statement is to how Catholics act? Let me demonstrate.Catholics offer us their understanding of the Scriptures as if all non-Catholics should simply accept what they say when they pick and choose what they will believe from the Bible! Catholics obviously expect non-Catholics to simply kow-tow to THEIR understanding of the Scriptures.Whether you can see it or admit it or not, that is EXACTLY how you appear.
Catholics are a lot more tolerant of heretics and schismatics today than the Early Church was!It's a good thing. Things like the inquisition and the crusades would be severely frowned on today.
Cheezit, the difference being is that Catholics don't hunt anybody down to bash their faith as is done to Catholics. I would hope you can see the difference.
Oh good grief. Cry me a flippin river. What in the world do you expect? Non Catholics don't need to "hunt Catholics down" to "bash their faith". The Catholic church is the worlds largest denomination and it has numerous doctrines that either can not be found in Scripture or are contrary to Scripture. Oh sure, Catholics are very adept at denying the facts or making elaborate excuses, but that doesn't change anything. As blatant as some of your UN-Scriptural beliefs are, you may as well put up a giant neon sign that says "COME ON IN AND FIND FAULT WITH OUR BELIEFS".
cheezit wrote -Non Catholics don't need to "hunt Catholics down" to "bash their faith". THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Cheezit, you non-Catholics come here specifically to bash the faith of Catholics.
Catholics do not do that to anybody!
We do defend our faith, though, as you see very clearly right on this very board.
If you want to come here to bash our faith, then don't whine that we're always ready to give an answer for why we believe what we do.
Take it or leave it, but stop whining about it!
I actually posted it and something happened. I will try again if you are interested in looking at my opinion?
Sure post away garee... I always enjoy a good laugh.
Where is the first century reformation found in the Bible garee?
Apr 10 13 5:40 PM
garee wrote:I actually posted it and something happened. I will try again if you are interested in looking at my opinion?
Had2 wrote:Sure post away garee... I always enjoy a good laugh.
Apr 10 13 5:56 PM
Midgie wrote:Cheezit, you non-Catholics come here specifically to bash the faith of Catholics. Catholics do not do that to anybody!
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