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Aug 6 08 1:33 PM
Stay away from the near occasion to sin
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Aug 7 08 1:47 PM
philothea
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Aug 7 08 5:51 PM
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Aug 7 08 8:06 PM
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Paul, tell that to ALL the martyrs who have given their lives for Christ! I do believe in healing, too, though.
'In addition to spiritual rebirth, the encounter with Jesus in one's life "often means finding physical healing." Christ empowered his disciples to heal the sick because he "came to seek, meet and save the whole man."' ~ Pope John Paul II
The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded spirit who can bear? Proverbs 18:14
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Aug 7 08 8:17 PM
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Aug 8 08 2:38 AM
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Catholic priests, even especially Pope John Paul II, suffer infirmities, I notice.
O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fire of hell,lead all souls to heaven, especially those who are in most need of Thy mercy.~ Fatima Prayer
Aug 11 08 2:32 AM
Once you quit using drugs Paul, I am sure you will suffer also!
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Revelation 12:10
Aug 11 08 2:56 AM
As he said, though, OFTEN people find physical healing in their encounter with Christ. I did!! And so didn't the Pope....many times during his life!
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Aug 11 08 5:17 AM
Lifes a Beach
"No Mary, No Jesus. Know Mary, know Jesus."
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Aug 11 08 6:06 AM
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Aug 11 08 8:39 AM
"Be Not Afraid! Open the doors to Christ, open them wide! Open the borders of states, economic and political systems, the vast domain of culture, civilization, and development - open them to His saving power!"~ Pope John Paul II ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Aug 11 08 8:58 AM
Do you really believe His martyrs were beset by the diseases of Egypt?
Aug 11 08 9:26 AM
Aug 11 08 8:00 PM
If you have the Gift of Healing, Paul, then lay your hands on this child in the front and ask the Lord to heal him from brain damage and the tics he now has from the medications he's been taking. If the Lord answers your prayer for him, then I'll post pictures of EVERYONE I know here who needs a healing.
I don't doubt the Lord can heal, Paul, and I don't doubt He can work through whomsoever He chooses to nor do I doubt there are people in the Body of Christ who have the Gift of Healing, as the Scriptures teach:
If you do indeed have the Gift of Healing, then I'll fall to my knees and ask the Lord for forgiveness for debating/arguing with you.
Let me just say, though, Paul, that you are very wrong to assume anyone's sickness is due to sin:
And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all His commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 28:1-2 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be My people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep My saying, he shall never see death. John 8:51
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Aug 11 08 8:07 PM
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Aug 11 08 8:12 PM
gerardthewatchman wrote: Paul has a point on the sickness in this world..... This is not saying a person is specifically responsible for their illness....but we have sickness and illness in this world because of one thing..... Sin.
Aug 11 08 8:21 PM
Do you really believe His martyrs were beset by the diseases of Egypt? Do you really believe that Cama's illness, my son's, or anyone's elses are all due to the disaeases of Egypt?
If there be dearth in the land, if there be pestilence, if there be blasting, or mildew, locusts, or caterpillers; if their enemies besiege them in the cities of their land; whatsoever sore or whatsoever sickness there be: Then what prayer or what supplication soever shall be made of any man, or of all thy people Israel, when every one shall know his own sore and his own grief, and shall spread forth his hands in this house: Then hear Thou from heaven Thy dwelling place, and forgive, and render unto every man according unto all his ways, whose heart Thou knowest; (for Thou only knowest the hearts of the children of men:) That they may fear Thee, to walk in Thy ways, so long as they live in the land which Thou gavest unto our fathers. 2 Chronicles 6:28-31 When Ephraim saw his sickness, and Judah saw his wound, then went Ephraim to the Assyrian, and sent to king Jareb: yet could he not heal you, nor cure you of your wound. Hosea 5:13
Aug 11 08 8:23 PM
Aug 11 08 8:31 PM
But that isn't what Paul is saying or didn't you notice! Paul is saying all ones illnesses are because of their particular sin. Jesus denied that twice with His own words!
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In My name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Mark 16:17-18
Aug 12 08 2:56 AM
Jasvon, I don't do the healing, the LORD does. If you believe me, then the child is healed.
If you can't do healing, then you have not your power from Jesus, and you are not doing all He commanded. Are you.
The Priest was healed because he believed on me.
the verse you put was of a man born blind from birth, and he was not sick.
You're quick to find a verse to justify your beliefs
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