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Oct 30 09 7:49 PM
Loose Nut wrote: Jim to be sexually pure Is that why you have so many priest that are sex abusers? Loose Nut
to be sexually pure
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Oct 30 09 9:48 PM
Mother Superior
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Oct 30 09 11:15 PM
Ishtar Buster
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Oct 31 09 3:52 AM
Much Fondue About Nothing
erika22 wrote: Did these children have parents?
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Oct 31 09 7:40 AM
What does that have to do with it? Picture yourself as a little 12 or 13 year old child who has been told all his life that the priest is a "man of God". Picture yourself in a room with this priest that is doing totally abnormal things to you. Picture what it is like when the priest is all finished and then he tells you that if you tell *anyone* about what has happened you will NEVER go to Heaven, but that you will spend eternity in Hell. Tell me how you would just run right out and tell every person you know about what has happened, believing that if you do, you will go straight to Hell when you die because this "man of God" told you so.
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Oct 31 09 8:06 AM
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cheezit01 wrote: erika22 wrote: The church is NOT in law enforcement. If people who were abused did not report the abuses to the police and decide 30 years later to talk about it, it is their fault. Follow the money! What do you expect a 12 year old child to do after he has been abused by a priest and told to keep his mouth shut or something horrible may happen to him? Sing like a canary?
erika22 wrote: The church is NOT in law enforcement. If people who were abused did not report the abuses to the police and decide 30 years later to talk about it, it is their fault. Follow the money!
Oct 31 09 8:26 AM
That usually does not stop public school kids from "singing like a canary" when they are abused by a teacher.
Oct 31 09 8:31 AM
cheezit01 wrote: That usually does not stop public school kids from "singing like a canary" when they are abused by a teacher. What do you suppose the odds are that the teacher is presumably a "man of God" and that said teacher told the student that they would spend eternity in Hell? I'd say right about a great big ZERO percent chance of that.
Oct 31 09 1:49 PM
I thought abuse was abuse no matter which way you cut it.
Oct 31 09 4:29 PM
Loose Nut wrote: Ghstha I thought abuse was abuse no matter which way you cut it. But those priest should not be moved around, they should be turned over to the Law to stop that abuse, not sent somewhere else to abuse other children!\ Loose Nut
Oct 31 09 5:57 PM
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Oct 31 09 6:17 PM
Catholic sprout
Oct 31 09 6:19 PM
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Oct 31 09 6:24 PM
Lifes a Beach
Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and kindle in them the fire of your love.
Oct 31 09 6:41 PM
Katydid89 wrote: You know Fundies have run out of argurments and insuls when the bring up the sex abuse scandal.
Oct 31 09 7:33 PM
Oct 31 09 7:55 PM
cheezit01 wrote: Katydid89 wrote: You know Fundies have run out of argurments and insuls when the bring up the sex abuse scandal. If it were left up to you Catholics, the whole sordid thing would be completely swept under the rug and those priests that are the abusers would just continue on with their filthy perverse acts against innocent kids.
You'd rather defend the indefensible.
Nov 1 09 5:38 AM
Fundies always bring up the abuse scandal because it makes the Catholic Church and priests look bad.
They conveniently ignore the thousands of priests around the world who keep their vows and serve God. My priest being one of them.
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Nov 1 09 9:33 AM
Hi Katydid88,
Prove it
Wisdom is proved by her actions, the actions of these Priests demand a verdict. The light of the gospel, as it is written has come into the world, by which we can prove all things, but these men have chosen darkness. Because other Christians bring these secret things into the light it does not make them the foul ball, it makes them obedient to the commandment ,This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Tit 1:13
While another in the same arena would be to approve of divorce, via through a new law called church approved annulments, where the church becomes a higher authority than the scripture, that proves its actions.
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 1Ti 4:1
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